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Medassin wrote: Maththunder wrote:

Medassin wrote: Margrave < chữ này ngoài nghĩa quan biên giới, biên cuơng, trấn ải thì còn đồng nghĩa nào hay hơn k? Tớ tưởng đây là bá tước?

Margrave was originally the medieval title for the military commander assigned to maintain the defense of one of the border provinces of the Holy Roman Empire or of a kingdom. That position became hereditary in certain feudal families in the Empire, and the title came to be borne by rulers of some Imperial principalities until the abolition of the Empire in 1806 (e.g., Margrave of Brandenburg, Margrave of Baden). Thereafter, those domains were absorbed in larger realms or the titleholders adopted titles indicative of full sovereignty.

>>> nó có liên quan tới quân sự nhưng tui dịch k có thông ?

Đấy là 'originally' tức là ban đầu thôi T_T. Về sau nó trở thành tước vị mà T_T

Rank[edit] The title of margrave, no longer a military office, evolved into a rank in the Holy Roman Empire's nobility; higher than Graf (count), it was equivalent to such associated compound titles as Landgrave, Palsgrave and Gefürsteter Graf, yet remained lower than Herzog (duke) and even, officially, lower than Fürst.

A few nobles in southern Austria and northern Italy, whose suzerain was the Emperor, received from him the title of margrave, sometimes translated in Italian as marquis (marchese):[2] those who reigned as virtual sovereigns (Marquis of Mantua, Marquis of Montferrat, Marquis of Saluzzo) exercised authority closer to the dynastic jurisdiction associated in modern Europe with the margrave, while some non-ruling nobles (e.g., Burgau, Pallavicini, Piatti) retained use of the margravial title but held the non-sovereign status of a marquis.

Cao hơn 'count' là tử tước, tức là bá tước (công hầu bá tử nam) T_T. Vậy nên phải xem xét xem từ này có nghĩa gì nữa, chưa chắc là quan trấn ải đâu.

Còn nếu từ hay hơn từ quan thì có thể dùng từ 'thống lĩnh'. 'Thống lĩnh vùng biên ải', nghe cũng ổn :3.